Prickly Pair

Posted February 14, 2019 – Narrated by Carmen (updated May 2025)

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“I often wonder whether men and women really suit each other. Perhaps they should live next door and just visit now and then.”

Prickly Pair

We can’t avoid it any longer:

The question that comes up at least once a week by email which is also the hottest topic in our seminars. Even our closest friends – after a couple glasses of wine – broach the subject. Are we pushing our luck?

Is full-time travel together too much of a good thing?

Saguaro National Park West - Bloom is already beginning!
Saguaro National Park West – Bloom is already beginning!

The intrigue merits reflection and a thoughtful answer.

Morgan, our friend of 35+ years, put it beautifully in her comment on When Beauty and Beauty Meet.


“One thing I wonder about is: Are there any relationship strategies that you have found helpful in maintaining harmony given your close quarters? I mean, I know you two have extra-calm temperaments, but I imagine you’ve discovered practices to help keep the peace. I’d be interested in your thoughts.”
Morgan W.

Wow. Most of our friends just say:

How can you two stand each other day-in and day-out in that small space!?

Up till now, we’ve nervously laughed them off.

Sure Jim and I have a few hand-picked strategies to guard the gates of LIB against marital disaster but who knows if they will help anyone else?

Nurturing relationships is a delicate business. Proceed with care.

Saguaro National Park West
Saguaro National Park West – My sister, Deborah, took this photo

Our solutions might be a breakthrough for some but send others straight to Cactus Jacks All Night Cantina to cry into a prickly pear martini.

We feel unnaturally blessed – another dear friend recently told me that we are living a charmed life. There must be something to that because as we near 1,000 days and our third Saint Valentine’s Day on the road, we can cautiously report that in spite of ourselves – being ourselves, as we are – we’re still together and still have no idea why Cupid has favored us.

Saguaro National Park West - lost the trail but found this sweet little saguaro family.
Saguaro National Park West – lost the trail but found this sweet little saguaro family

I’m right brained, he’s left. He’s warm-blooded, I’m cold. My glass is half empty, his half full. He’s Star Trek, I’m Northern Exposure. I have a sweet tooth, he craves salt. He reads fiction but I prefer non-fiction. He’s up with the sun and I’m to bed at dawn.

Even our popcorn is unique – Mushroom for him and Baby White for me.

To illustrate our difference in latitude, the Myers-Briggs Personality Test scores us as polar opposites – he’s ESTJ to my INFP. We’re wired as differently as a potato masher is from an atom splitter.

Saguaro National Park West
Fiesta moon at Saguaro National Park West

The occasional argument

Of course we have them – but disagreements are not due to our close quarters or exacerbated by our 200 square foot Airstream Excella, because we still argue about the same old crap we always have.

Also, we love our trailer but we’re hardly ever inside. Unless there’s a dust, hail, snow or rain storm, we prefer to be out pursuing our interests, hobbies, chores and workout routines (swimming for me, cigar smoking for Jim).

Certain traits and values bond us – values which align more with millennials who tend to shun materialism for experience – and we’ve always felt alienated from Boomer culture.

Fascinated to distraction with what we don’t understand – like, each other – this curiosity and appreciation for contrast keeps us youthful if not young.

Saguaro National Park West - Amazing views on the trail to Wasson Peak
Saguaro National Park West – Amazing views on the trail to Wasson Peak

Keeping opposite hours helps.

In the morning, Jim takes Pico for a long walk so I can wake up slowly to greet the noonday sun. Jim retires early in the evening while I stay up late reading, writing, editing photos or playing Scrabble.

Spicy food, good film and craft breweries are common ground – Belgians for me and IPA for Jim.

Tortilla Flat Superstition Saloon
Tortilla Flat Superstition Saloon

Our Kindles help manage our literature preferences – Jack Reacher novels for him, science and religion for me. But we love to listen to audiobooks together which inspires long conversations from radically different perspectives.

No doubt, this low-stress lifestyle soothes anxieties, reaping the benefits of difference. While I tend to stay focused on natural disasters, Jim is the tech specialist. Due to our differences, we have literally saved each others lives.

Communication is our best tool for keeping the peace. Safety is an ongoing concern so we respectfully talk through our plans, actions, expectations and all potential consequences. This higher level of communication deepens our relationship.

Saguaro National Park West - no crowds!
Saguaro National Park West – no crowds!

Watch for the signs …

Personal quiet time is a primary need. Jim’s cigar time is sacred. I figure anyone who lights a cigar prefers solitude, so I use that time to pursue my own interests. Writing in my journal sends Jim the same “do not disturb” signal.

But if regular routines fail to deliver enough solitude and one must leave the premises alone, then Pico can always use a walk or some therapeutic grocery shopping is in order. Our partnership is as much about respecting space as it is about being together.

But, as Morgan wisely suggests, there must be “practices.”

GPS Tracking:

If one of us leaves the site to walk the dog or go for that therapeutic shopping trip – whether on foot, in the truck, on a bike or in a kayak – we must have tracking capabilities and use them. This is primary because while living on the road, communication can save a life. The iPhone “Find Friends” app usually works for us but if we don’t have a good cell signal …

iphone screen

Walkie-talkies:

Walkie-talkies are handy for tracking purposes and also prevent misunderstandings while parking the rig – at least, if one of us gets frustrated the entire campground doesn’t have to hear about it.

walkie-talkies

Share equally:

Housework, grocery shopping, cooking, driving … Setting up and striking camp is teamwork. All jobs are fun jobs. If you don’t think it’s fun, then imagine the alternative: painting a fence, mowing a lawn or dealing with a troublesome neighbor. Ugh.

Good headphones:

We thrive on radically different content but with the right equipment we can indulge separately – Side-by-Side By Sondheim for Jim and Live at Pompeii for me.

Every day is a holiday!

Flowers are everywhere!

Saguaro National Park flowers
Saguaro National Park flowers
Saguaro National Park flowers

Chocolate and champagne are always on board! Keeping secrets in a small space is a nerve-racking ordeal. It’s probably easier to hide a Russian sub in San Diego Bay than a new Tommy Bahama shirt in a 30′ Airstream. So LIB gifts are usually outings to museums, concerts or some novelty to increase brain plasticity.

Saguaro National Park
Saguaro National Park West – this photo is not filtered! These are the true colors in the afternoon light! Gould Mine Trail.

Crowds are a hassle – so on Mother’s Day, Father’s Day and Valentine’s Day we either grill something special or go out for a Costco hot dog – a rare treat.

cost hot dog and champagne

Just Do it!!!

When we lived in Coronado, it was common to walk past public beach weddings. Occasionally, a critic of the institution would holler, “Don’t Do It!” We understand.

Regardless of the living situation, life-long commitment is a crazy path. Yet, forty-three years later, here we are … none the wiser, but joyful and always marveling in the energy of small (4-3-2) steps.

What are your interpersonal coping strategies? Care to share them in the comment section below?

If you want to see the exact route we travel, click here.

*photos in this post (unless otherwise noted) were taken and copyrighted by Living In Beauty.


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Barbara Mandel
Barbara Mandel
6 years ago

Lovely narrative on Vday! Thank you and safe travels!!

Lori Thompson
Lori Thompson
6 years ago

You guys are an inspiration! Happy ❤️ day!!!!

Anonymous
Anonymous
6 years ago

Northern Exposure👍

Larry Walters
Larry Walters
6 years ago

Another great blog. Enjoyed meeting you at Saguaro National Park on 2-12. Thanks for the pics.

Larry & Kathy – Oklahoma City

Mickie Geck
Mickie Geck
6 years ago

I loved this Valentines Day post

Kathy A.
Kathy A.
6 years ago

Happy Valentine’s Day from Ixtapa, Mexico. You know I love to travel. The longer the better. Hopefully, I’ll be in country the next time you’re in San Diego, and we can talk travels! Safe travels to you, too!

Kathy and Steve Maczko
Kathy and Steve Maczko
6 years ago

You never disappoint in showing us the way. Thank you.

Kathy and Steve

Claudia Uhe
Claudia Uhe
6 years ago

Happy Valentine’s Day! I enjoyed this post and the pics very much. Perhaps because there is some resemblance to us.

David
David
6 years ago

Nice post on Valentines! ♥️

Barbara
Barbara
6 years ago

Excellent post for this special day. Love the adventures.

Frank DiBona
Frank DiBona
6 years ago

Great blog guys!

Ingrid
6 years ago

Well said. What’s that saying … opposites attract! My husband and I have been together 40 years, and we are different in most aspects, but seem to make it work. The RV lifestyle is addictive and we love it (we’re in year 6 of living full-time in less than 300 sq.ft. with no end in sight anytime soon)

Allen Perry
Allen Perry
6 years ago

I love 💕 you baby girl

Victoria B.
Victoria B.
6 years ago

I would like to add a thought that I know makes a huge difference in my marriage and it’s a quality I can easily spot in other successful couples, like you guys.

My husband and I are on the same team; we don’t compete with each other. Our goal is a shared one and we are working together. It doesn’t matter if we are trying to solve a problem, accomplish a task or what – we do it collaboratively, not competitively.

So many individuals are looking to win, be right, or have the upper hand. When you’re married you become a team. Your spouse is your partner, not your adversary.

Happy Trails Lovebirds!

Cathy
Cathy
6 years ago

Loved the blog! Get food for thought for those of us moving toward full-timing. I also appreciated the linked 4-3-2 post.

Kerrie
Kerrie
6 years ago

Carmen and Jim what a wonderful comment on marriage. I truly appreciate the vulnerability of your sharing. It is inspiring to read of your profound differences and yet commitment to each other and joy in your journey. Thank you!!!

Liesbet @ Roaming About

Wow, you two have surely figured out this 24/7 lifestyle. I always thought my husband and I were a good team because we have so much in common and so many of the same interests… and that that was the reason we could manage being 24/7 together from the start (2004). But, reading your account – and listening to it as well, such a soothing voice! – made me realize how differences could be beneficial.

I totally agree with the concept of me-time and I especially see the advantage of having a car to use separately from the RV. My husband and I (and our 60-pound dog) live, work, and travel in a 19ft campervan. In those three years (and the eight on a 35ft sailboat before), I never quite realized that more space and flexibility could be, would be, beneficial. Until someone pointed out while we were WorkCamping at Amazon last winter, how they usually see singles in vans and asked “How do you take a break from each other when you don’t have a car?”

All RVs are a compromise and while we enjoy this lifestyle (I’ve been a nomad since 2003), living in a house sometimes beckons because of the comfort level – a couch, flush toilet, non-military showers, unlimited electricity and water, but, more importantly, a separate room for me and for him!

Great post, you two! I love the humor sprinkled on as well.

Katharine Dowell
Katharine Dowell
3 years ago

A great post. Thanks. 💞 Just one correction: Katharine Hepburn’s name is misspelled. I was named for her. 😁

Julie
Julie
2 years ago

I really enjoyed this post…I hear “mutual respect” throughout! It’s the key! Thank you for the timely reminder and inspiration for married life whether on the road or stationary. Have an enjoyable Valentine’s Day, LIB, wherever you may be.

Laura Sanders
Laura Sanders
2 years ago

We recently crossed the 43 year anniversary threshold. We have been living in our RV full time for 2.5 years. We’ve lived in a garage apartment, a single wide mobile home and a few beautiful spacious homes. So the truth is before moving into a tiny home on wheels we knew we could be happy anywhere, together. After years of privacy we suddenly had none! But we knew that going in and just accepted it as part of our new adventure. We wanted to go places and visit friends and family and this was the choice that made the goals achievable. Our game plan has changed multiple times (I am recovering from spine surgery, didn’t plan for that!) but had to be done so I can hike and bike (and buy food) again. But it’s all good as long as we are side by side. We don’t even feel like our home is small, (except when elbows hit the wall) it’s just home.

Anonymous
Anonymous
1 year ago

Just found your blog and this post, and on Valentine’s 2019 were so near. You in Saguaro and us ‘streaming on the beach in Puerto Penasco.

3441 days on the road


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